Boozing Barbarians have Dylan Hartley reminiscing about England's infamous dwarf tossing controversy
The fallout from last week’s boozing Barbarians controversy has prompted Dylan Hartley to revisit one of the most infamous episodes of England Rugby World Cup history – the 2011 dwarf tossing shenanigans in Queenstown.
Last Sunday’s England match against the Barbarians at Twickenham was cancelled after it emerged that players from the invitational club side, a posse that included ex-England skipper Chris Robshaw, twice breached the protective hotel bubble designed to ensure the Quilter Cup match could safely go ahead despite Covid-19.
That escapade got Hartley, another ex-England skipper, thinking about social escapades from his own career and he delved into reminiscing about the infamous carry-on nine years ago at the World Cup in New Zealand which left Martin Johnson’s squad at the mercy of the media who went into overdrive and berated the English.
Appearing on the latest edition of the RugbyPass Offload show, Hartley didn’t hesitate in telling his version of a story that gained notoriety due to allegations that drunken England players were tossing dwarfs around a Queenstown pub during a night out at the finals where they went on to be eliminated at the quarter-final stage.
“It started with really good intentions,” said Hartley, casting his mind back to high jink that had repercussions for the public image of Johnson’s squad. “We had just won a game, we were in Queenstown to have downtime and we went to the pub.
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“There was a free tab, it started really pleasant, a bit of team bonding, unwinding, but then things just escalate and your moral compass kind of goes. We bowled around the corner and it was a hostel with a very good bar attached to it. The funny thing is the Welsh and Irish teams had been there a couple of days earlier doing exactly what we were doing. There was a sign outside that said midget madness and we didn’t even see that, we just went to the busiest place.
“We went in there and there were some small people performing, dancing and we basically had a dance with them. There was no throwing whatsoever but being the England rugby team at a World Cup with a massive media following we got a lot of attention.
“He [Johnson] was good as gold. He basically said just make good decisions, but trying to make good decisions after a few pints is difficult. No one was hurt, it was just good fun but completely blown way out the water with the (Mike) Tindall link and the little people.
“It’s almost madness that no one in that (England) leadership group – but again it was a sign of the times – said after this (first) pub we’re probably going to go home boys. We were just left to our own devices to kick on and make our own fun. I doubt that would happen these days, especially in the height of a World Cup.”
Reflecting on last week’s controversy surrounding the Barbarians, Hartley added: “It’s just disappointing. It wasn’t their intention to do that. We needed the game. England needed the game as a warm-up, the RFU needed the game for revenue. General rugby community rugby public wanted the game and needed the game to lift spirits and whatnot, so it was disappointing it didn’t go ahead.
“It’s not like they considered it and did something malicious, it was fairly innocent. I imagine in that Baa-Baas camp the reputation and the stories that come with that team, a lot of it is built around the socialising element. They tried to water that right down and do something to bond but they breached their contract… like most things in life it started with good intentions and it probably got out of control.”
Fellow show host Ryan Wilson, the Glasgow and Scotland back row, revealed to Hartley that he was invited to join the Barbarians as the emergency unfolded but was told in no uncertain terms by Warriors coach Danny Wilson he was going nowhere.
“I got a phone call,” said Wilson. “Nathan Hines, who was doing the (Barbarians) forwards stuff, phoned me on Friday while I was travelling down to Ospreys. He said: ‘Mate, what are you up to at the weekend?’
“I said I have a game tomorrow. He said: ‘You keen to come straight to London and play?’ I was keen but imagine my coach, 80 minutes against Ospreys and then playing again the next day. I walked straight into Danny Wilson and said I’m playing for the Baa-Baas once we have played this game and he told me to f*** off straight away. I would have been keen to get down there but not to happen.”
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I bet he inspired those supporters just as much.
1 Go to commentsBen Smith Springboks living rent free in his head 😊😂
67 Go to commentsGood to hear he would like to play the game at the highest level, I hadn’t been to sure how much of a motivator that was before now. Sadly he’s probably chosen the rugby club to go to. Try not to worry about all the input about how you should play rugby Joey and just try to emulate what you do on the league field and have fun. You’ll limit your game too much (well not really because he’s a standard athlete like SBW and he’ll still have enough) if you’re trying to make sure you can recycle the ball back etc. On the other hard, you can totally just try and recycle by looking to offload any and everywhere if you’re going to ground 😋
1 Go to commentsThis just proves that theres always a stat and a metric to use to justify your abilities and your success. Ben did it last week by creating an imaginary competition and now you did the same to counter his argument and espouse a new yardstick for success. Why not just use the current one and lets say the Boks have won 4 world cups making them the most successful world cup team. Outside of the world cup the All Blacks are the most successful team winning countless rugby championships and dominating the rankings with high win percentages. Over the last 4 years statistically the Irish are the best having the highest win rate and also having positive records against every tier 1 side. The most successful Northern team in the game has been England with a world cup title and the most six nations titles in history. The AB’s are the most dominant team in history with the highest win rate and 3 world cups. Lets not try to reinvent the wheel. Just be honest about the actual stats and what each team has been good at doing and that will be enough to define their level of success.
19 Go to commentsHow is 7’s played there? I’m surprised 10 or 11 man rugby hasn’t taken off. 7 just doesn’t fit the 15s dynamics (rules n field etc) but these other versions do.
7 Go to commentsPick Swinton at your peril A liability just like JWH from the Roosters Skelton ??? went missing at RWC
14 Go to commentsLike tennis, who have a ranking system, and I believe rugby too, just measure over each period preceding a world cup event who was the longest number one and that would be it. In tennis the number one player frequently is not the grand slam winner. I love and adore the All Blacks since the days of Ian Kirkpatrick when I was a kid in SA. And still do because they are the masters of running rugby and are gentleman on and off the field - in general. And in my opinion they have been the majority of the time the best rugby team in the world.
19 Go to commentsHaving overseas possessions in 2024 is absurd. These Frenchies should have to give the New Caledonians their freedom.
21 Go to commentsBell injured his foot didn’t he? Bring Tupou in he’ll deliver when it counts. Agree mostly but I would switch in the Reds number 8 Harry Wilson for Swinton and move Rob Valentini to 6 instead. Wilson is a clever player who reads the play, you can’t outmuscle the AB’s and Springboks, if you have any chance it’s by playing clever. Same goes for Paisami, he’s a little guy who doesn’t really trouble the likes of De Allende and Jordie Barrett. I’d rather play Carter Gordon at 12 and put Michael Lynagh’s boy at 10. That way you get a BMT type goalkicker at 10 and a playmaker at 12. Anyways, just my two cents as a Bok supporter.
14 Go to commentsThanks Brett, love your articles which are alway pertinent. It’s a difficult topic trying to have a panel adjudicating consistently penalties for red card issues. Many of the mitigating reasons raised are judged subjectively, hence the different outcomes. How to take away subjective opinions?
9 Go to commentsYes Sir! Surprising, just like Fraser would also have escaped sanction if he was a few inches lower, even if it was by accident that he missed! Has there really been talk about those sanctions or is this just sensational journalism? I stopped reading, so might have missed any notations.
9 Go to commentsAI is only as good as the information put in, the nuances of the sport, what you see out the corner of the eye, how you sum up in a split second the situation, yes the AI is a tool but will not help win games, more likely contribute to a loss, Rugby Players are not robots, all AI can do if offer a solution not the solution. AI will effect many sports, help train better golfers etc.
45 Go to commentsIt couldn’t have been Ryan Crotty. He wasn’t selected in either World Cup side - they chose Money Bill instead. And Money Bill only cared about himself, and that manager he had, not the team.
28 Go to commentsYawn 🥱 nobody would give a hoot about this new trophy. End of the day we just have to beat Ireland and NZ this year then they can finally shut up 🤐
19 Go to commentsTalking bout Ryan Crotty? Heard Crotty say in a interview once that SBW doesen't care about the team . He went on to say that whenever they lost a big game, SBW would be happy as if nothing happened, according to him someone who cares would look down.. Personally I think Crotty is in the wrong, not for feeling gutted but for expecting others 2 be like him… I have been a bad loser forever as it matters so much to me but good on you SBW for being able to see the bigger picture….
28 Go to commentsThis sounds like a WWE idea so Americans can also get excited about rugby, RUGBY NEEDS A INTERNATIONAL CALENDER .. The rugby Championship and Six Nations can be held at same time, top 3 of six nations and top 3 of Rugby championship (6 nations should include Georgia AND another qualifying country while Fiji, Japan and Samoa/Tonga qualifier should make out 6 Southern teams).. Scrap June internationals and year end tours. Have a Elite top six Cup and the Bottom 6 in a secondary comp….
19 Go to commentsThe rugby championship would be even stronger with Fiji in it… I know it doesen’t fit the long term plans of NZ or Aus but you are robbing a whole nation of being able to see their best players play for Fiji…. Every second player in NZ and AUS teams has Fijian surnames… shame on you!!! World rugby won’t step in either as France and England has now also joined in…. I guess where money is involved it will always be the poor countries missing out….
90 Go to commentsNo surprise there. How hard can it be to pick a ball off the ground and chuck it to a mate? 😂
4 Go to commentsSometimes people just like a moan mate!
9 Go to commentsexcellent idea ! rugby needs this 💪
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