Rob Penney wasn't given much without Whitelock and Mo'unga
Rob Penney didn’t appoint himself.
No coach does.
I had misgivings about the decision of the Crusaders board to install Penney as head coach of the franchise and expressed those at the time.
I won’t go as far as saying the Crusaders set Penney up to fail in the short term, but I’m not sure he inherited the calibre of squad that predecessor Scott Robertson did.
The heart of Robertson’s Crusaders was Sam Whitelock. Richie Mo’unga the brains.
You take those two out and, frankly, you’re not left with much. At least not when it comes to having the clinical ability to win when it counts.
I see a few fans piling on Penney now and pointing to disappointing outcomes in his previous coaching roles.
Look, folk need people to blame when they’re unhappy, but Penney shouldn’t be the target.
Let’s isolate Whitelock for a moment.
Talk can be cheap, but it appears he’s been sounded out about an early return from his club contract in France and an unexpected swansong with the All Blacks.
Some might wonder why Robertson – having assumed the All Blacks job – might seek the services of a guy who’ll turn 36 later this year.
Well, look at how the Crusaders are going right now and wonder no more.
If anyone knows Whitelock’s value, it’s Robertson. He’ll be acutely aware of the hole left in the Crusaders without him and conscious that the same can’t happen to the All Blacks.
It was Penney that gave Whitelock his start in professional rugby. Robertson too, in a coaching capacity.
That’s why I struggle to join the group of folk wanting to round on Penney and I assume his appointment is potentially more about development than immediate results.
The Penney-coached Canterbury teams I covered were humble, hardworking and unbeatable when it counted.
The culture, to my eye, was outstanding and I’ll give a couple of examples.
Daniel Carter and Richie McCaw played a bit for Canterbury during Penney’s tenure.
As stars, they knew they would be doing media every time they turned up to training.
Neither gave you a lot, in terms of barn burning quotes, but I did once get a very good and informative one-on-one interview out of Carter.
The thing is, before the pair even laced a boot at training, they asked who’d requested them for media that day and then fulfilled every obligation.
I moved onto Wellington and the Hurricanes after that where, if you were a player of note, you didn’t have to do media. No, you were too special for that.
I mention that, because Penney’s teams won. So did those he left to Tabai Matson and Robertson.
The Hurricanes eventually did too, but only after Mark Hammett had come in and put a bit of the Canterbury culture into the place.
That’s one of the reasons I can’t really endorse the criticism of Penney.
I’ve seen him take boys, such as Whitelock, and groom them for All Black careers.
I’ve seen him take punts on left-field thinkers like Matson and Robertson and set them on the path to successful coaching careers.
I’ve seen what red-and-black rugby means to him and the responsibility he felt to honour the great coaches and players who’d come before him, through the performances of his teams.
I’ve seen the work he put into creating a culture where everyone was valued and respected.
Maybe players such as Whitelock, Kieran Read, Owen Franks, Ryan Crotty and Matt Todd would’ve become All Blacks anyway. I prefer to think the values instilled by Penney played an important part.
Robertson’s departure was always going to mark the end of an incredible era.
I don’t know if we’ll see the like of it again. But I do know what’s Penney’s done before and the environment he created so that others could continue to succeed after he was gone.
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I bet he inspired those supporters just as much.
1 Go to commentsBen Smith Springboks living rent free in his head 😊😂
67 Go to commentsGood to hear he would like to play the game at the highest level, I hadn’t been to sure how much of a motivator that was before now. Sadly he’s probably chosen the rugby club to go to. Try not to worry about all the input about how you should play rugby Joey and just try to emulate what you do on the league field and have fun. You’ll limit your game too much (well not really because he’s a standard athlete like SBW and he’ll still have enough) if you’re trying to make sure you can recycle the ball back etc. On the other hard, you can totally just try and recycle by looking to offload any and everywhere if you’re going to ground 😋
1 Go to commentsThis just proves that theres always a stat and a metric to use to justify your abilities and your success. Ben did it last week by creating an imaginary competition and now you did the same to counter his argument and espouse a new yardstick for success. Why not just use the current one and lets say the Boks have won 4 world cups making them the most successful world cup team. Outside of the world cup the All Blacks are the most successful team winning countless rugby championships and dominating the rankings with high win percentages. Over the last 4 years statistically the Irish are the best having the highest win rate and also having positive records against every tier 1 side. The most successful Northern team in the game has been England with a world cup title and the most six nations titles in history. The AB’s are the most dominant team in history with the highest win rate and 3 world cups. Lets not try to reinvent the wheel. Just be honest about the actual stats and what each team has been good at doing and that will be enough to define their level of success.
19 Go to commentsHow is 7’s played there? I’m surprised 10 or 11 man rugby hasn’t taken off. 7 just doesn’t fit the 15s dynamics (rules n field etc) but these other versions do.
7 Go to commentsPick Swinton at your peril A liability just like JWH from the Roosters Skelton ??? went missing at RWC
14 Go to commentsLike tennis, who have a ranking system, and I believe rugby too, just measure over each period preceding a world cup event who was the longest number one and that would be it. In tennis the number one player frequently is not the grand slam winner. I love and adore the All Blacks since the days of Ian Kirkpatrick when I was a kid in SA. And still do because they are the masters of running rugby and are gentleman on and off the field - in general. And in my opinion they have been the majority of the time the best rugby team in the world.
19 Go to commentsHaving overseas possessions in 2024 is absurd. These Frenchies should have to give the New Caledonians their freedom.
21 Go to commentsBell injured his foot didn’t he? Bring Tupou in he’ll deliver when it counts. Agree mostly but I would switch in the Reds number 8 Harry Wilson for Swinton and move Rob Valentini to 6 instead. Wilson is a clever player who reads the play, you can’t outmuscle the AB’s and Springboks, if you have any chance it’s by playing clever. Same goes for Paisami, he’s a little guy who doesn’t really trouble the likes of De Allende and Jordie Barrett. I’d rather play Carter Gordon at 12 and put Michael Lynagh’s boy at 10. That way you get a BMT type goalkicker at 10 and a playmaker at 12. Anyways, just my two cents as a Bok supporter.
14 Go to commentsThanks Brett, love your articles which are alway pertinent. It’s a difficult topic trying to have a panel adjudicating consistently penalties for red card issues. Many of the mitigating reasons raised are judged subjectively, hence the different outcomes. How to take away subjective opinions?
9 Go to commentsYes Sir! Surprising, just like Fraser would also have escaped sanction if he was a few inches lower, even if it was by accident that he missed! Has there really been talk about those sanctions or is this just sensational journalism? I stopped reading, so might have missed any notations.
9 Go to commentsAI is only as good as the information put in, the nuances of the sport, what you see out the corner of the eye, how you sum up in a split second the situation, yes the AI is a tool but will not help win games, more likely contribute to a loss, Rugby Players are not robots, all AI can do if offer a solution not the solution. AI will effect many sports, help train better golfers etc.
45 Go to commentsIt couldn’t have been Ryan Crotty. He wasn’t selected in either World Cup side - they chose Money Bill instead. And Money Bill only cared about himself, and that manager he had, not the team.
28 Go to commentsYawn 🥱 nobody would give a hoot about this new trophy. End of the day we just have to beat Ireland and NZ this year then they can finally shut up 🤐
19 Go to commentsTalking bout Ryan Crotty? Heard Crotty say in a interview once that SBW doesen't care about the team . He went on to say that whenever they lost a big game, SBW would be happy as if nothing happened, according to him someone who cares would look down.. Personally I think Crotty is in the wrong, not for feeling gutted but for expecting others 2 be like him… I have been a bad loser forever as it matters so much to me but good on you SBW for being able to see the bigger picture….
28 Go to commentsThis sounds like a WWE idea so Americans can also get excited about rugby, RUGBY NEEDS A INTERNATIONAL CALENDER .. The rugby Championship and Six Nations can be held at same time, top 3 of six nations and top 3 of Rugby championship (6 nations should include Georgia AND another qualifying country while Fiji, Japan and Samoa/Tonga qualifier should make out 6 Southern teams).. Scrap June internationals and year end tours. Have a Elite top six Cup and the Bottom 6 in a secondary comp….
19 Go to commentsThe rugby championship would be even stronger with Fiji in it… I know it doesen’t fit the long term plans of NZ or Aus but you are robbing a whole nation of being able to see their best players play for Fiji…. Every second player in NZ and AUS teams has Fijian surnames… shame on you!!! World rugby won’t step in either as France and England has now also joined in…. I guess where money is involved it will always be the poor countries missing out….
90 Go to commentsNo surprise there. How hard can it be to pick a ball off the ground and chuck it to a mate? 😂
4 Go to commentsSometimes people just like a moan mate!
9 Go to commentsexcellent idea ! rugby needs this 💪
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