'I don't say this lightly. He is in the top five young players I've ever coached'
As he sips coffee in his penthouse flat in Treviso, savouring the shafts of winter sunlight that beam through the windows, Paul Gustard talks like a steam train.
He starts with the bargain price of Aperol Spritz in the walled city and its “savage” architecture. Then it’s on to Greek mythology. Playing dress-up as a Teen Wolf. Acronyms. Storytelling. Metaphors. He rattles through the gnarled Italian pack of the noughties and waxes about how they routinely butchered opposition forwards. He name-checks all 23 of his Benetton players in the current Italy squad and gives such glowing endorsements of each one that you almost convince yourself they’re going to do a number on England this Sunday.
Thirteen months after leaving Harlequins, and his first experience as director of rugby, Benetton brings a familiar remit with new challenges. Twenty-seven players departed last month on international duty and the club has to find ways of replacing them. Gustard is in charge of defence, the area he loves and through which he made his name. His crafting of the Saracens wolfpack gave rise to all sorts of merchandise, branding and even a club awards video featuring Gustard surfing on the team kit van dressed as the Michael J Fox’s Teen Wolf character. His Italian is more pidgin than perfect but he needs to immerse himself in the place to show the players his authenticity.
“If you’re trying to give your soul, you need them to understand. And for them to understand, you need to try and speak in their language,” Gustard says. “I’ve often used imagery and metaphors and storytelling in rugby – all powerful tools.
“We have the lion on our crest and ‘forza leoni’ written everywhere. I’ve created an acronym based on the word lions. L for line speed. I for intent in the hit. O is on your feet. N is next job. And S is spacing. There is a checklist in players’ minds – sprint off the line, hit someone as hard as I can, get up and ready to go again, and get my spacing. We don’t want people to overthink defence.
“Having 27 players away really fine-tunes your coaching, you have to think about where players are at physically, emotionally, tactically and technically, because they just haven’t played as much.
“We only had 26 to choose from against Dragons [on 28th January] of which eight were front-rowers. I saw real togetherness and fight with the group to get a very creditable draw. The group are very, very willing to work. They don’t complain.”
These traits appeal to Gustard and he enthuses about the talent at his disposal. Benetton are led by 23-year-old Michele Lamaro, Kieran Crowley’s immediate choice as Italy captain when he took over as head coach, and a man who could steer the Azzurri for a decade yet.
“He reminds me of Chris Robshaw,” Gustard says. “I don’t like using other players’ names and I certainly wouldn’t drop one like Chris’ unless I believed this kid was in the same ballpark. A lot of things Chris did, Michele does as well.
Michele Lamaro's first ever pre-match team talk as captain of Italy was spine-tingling.
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“Both have a very low error rate. Both have this uncanny knack of being around the ball when things mattered. Both are able to distribute in attack at the right time. Both are very strong over ball. Both have huge, huge work rates. By 20 minutes against France, Michele had made nine tackles. By 60, he’d made over 20. He has real stopping power for a 107-108KG guy and an insatiable appetite to work.”
Gianmarco Luccheshi, the young hooker, gets talked up for his breakdown potency and the tattoo on his arm declaring ‘if you want peace, you must be ready to fight’. Federico Ruzza, whose carry set up Italy’s try in Paris, is likened to Tom Croft. Back-up fly-half Leonardo Marin “kicks like a mule”. Monty Ioane is “a star player who can beat three or four people in a phonebox”.
There’s an extra dollop of praise for Tommaso Menoncello, the centre/wing who at 19, became the youngest try-scorer of the Six Nations era with a majestic finish against the French.
“This kid is a bit of a freak. He’s big, very, very fast and has a massive engine. The numbers he crunches in training are phenomenal.
“I don’t say this too lightly, but he is in the top five young players I’ve ever coached. So freakish, it’s hard to describe. His softer skills and passing game will come but he runs hard and straight and defends really well. He is a top-class 13 playing out of position.”
So how can Italy, and the players under his tutelage, manipulate the defence Gustard used to run? The heinousness of their championship record is well-documented – winless since 2015; an eye-watering 239 points shipped last season and only six tries scored. Gustard is fond of recounting the tale of King Sisyphus, condemned to roll a boulder up a hill every day for eternity, and to borrow from the myth, Italy are trying to shunt the thing up Mount Everest.
“To get some reward, their back-field decision-making has to be better than it was against France,” Gustard says. “We know England will kick. Italy put themselves under too much pressure, they exposed themselves and gave space to France. Marcus Smith, Henry Slade and Elliot Daly are all good enough to find grass and have a better kick-chase than France.
“To break England down, they need to keep possession when they decide to play in that middle third. When it gets unstructured, there will be opportunities to find a little space between a group which is still finding organisation.
“And they have to be more effective when they get in the 22. They have to come away with more points. That’s been a real downfall in the past four games.
“If you come away with points from every other visit to the 22, that’s an unbelievably high return. They need to get something like 4/10, that kind of ratio. They need to be at the very top end of that because they know they’re going to concede points.
“Their super-strength is around the breakdown. Their skill is innate, and being a slightly different size to some back-rowers around, they are exceptional over the ball. That’s how they can get into the game. If they can frustrate England, and England make mistakes as France did, and if it’s a three-, five-, nine-point game at 60 minutes, that is progress for Italy. I don’t think they will win, and as an Englishman I don’t want them to win, but I’d be delighted for the players who are involved.”
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I bet he inspired those supporters just as much.
1 Go to commentsBen Smith Springboks living rent free in his head 😊😂
67 Go to commentsGood to hear he would like to play the game at the highest level, I hadn’t been to sure how much of a motivator that was before now. Sadly he’s probably chosen the rugby club to go to. Try not to worry about all the input about how you should play rugby Joey and just try to emulate what you do on the league field and have fun. You’ll limit your game too much (well not really because he’s a standard athlete like SBW and he’ll still have enough) if you’re trying to make sure you can recycle the ball back etc. On the other hard, you can totally just try and recycle by looking to offload any and everywhere if you’re going to ground 😋
1 Go to commentsThis just proves that theres always a stat and a metric to use to justify your abilities and your success. Ben did it last week by creating an imaginary competition and now you did the same to counter his argument and espouse a new yardstick for success. Why not just use the current one and lets say the Boks have won 4 world cups making them the most successful world cup team. Outside of the world cup the All Blacks are the most successful team winning countless rugby championships and dominating the rankings with high win percentages. Over the last 4 years statistically the Irish are the best having the highest win rate and also having positive records against every tier 1 side. The most successful Northern team in the game has been England with a world cup title and the most six nations titles in history. The AB’s are the most dominant team in history with the highest win rate and 3 world cups. Lets not try to reinvent the wheel. Just be honest about the actual stats and what each team has been good at doing and that will be enough to define their level of success.
19 Go to commentsHow is 7’s played there? I’m surprised 10 or 11 man rugby hasn’t taken off. 7 just doesn’t fit the 15s dynamics (rules n field etc) but these other versions do.
7 Go to commentsPick Swinton at your peril A liability just like JWH from the Roosters Skelton ??? went missing at RWC
14 Go to commentsLike tennis, who have a ranking system, and I believe rugby too, just measure over each period preceding a world cup event who was the longest number one and that would be it. In tennis the number one player frequently is not the grand slam winner. I love and adore the All Blacks since the days of Ian Kirkpatrick when I was a kid in SA. And still do because they are the masters of running rugby and are gentleman on and off the field - in general. And in my opinion they have been the majority of the time the best rugby team in the world.
19 Go to commentsHaving overseas possessions in 2024 is absurd. These Frenchies should have to give the New Caledonians their freedom.
21 Go to commentsBell injured his foot didn’t he? Bring Tupou in he’ll deliver when it counts. Agree mostly but I would switch in the Reds number 8 Harry Wilson for Swinton and move Rob Valentini to 6 instead. Wilson is a clever player who reads the play, you can’t outmuscle the AB’s and Springboks, if you have any chance it’s by playing clever. Same goes for Paisami, he’s a little guy who doesn’t really trouble the likes of De Allende and Jordie Barrett. I’d rather play Carter Gordon at 12 and put Michael Lynagh’s boy at 10. That way you get a BMT type goalkicker at 10 and a playmaker at 12. Anyways, just my two cents as a Bok supporter.
14 Go to commentsThanks Brett, love your articles which are alway pertinent. It’s a difficult topic trying to have a panel adjudicating consistently penalties for red card issues. Many of the mitigating reasons raised are judged subjectively, hence the different outcomes. How to take away subjective opinions?
9 Go to commentsYes Sir! Surprising, just like Fraser would also have escaped sanction if he was a few inches lower, even if it was by accident that he missed! Has there really been talk about those sanctions or is this just sensational journalism? I stopped reading, so might have missed any notations.
9 Go to commentsAI is only as good as the information put in, the nuances of the sport, what you see out the corner of the eye, how you sum up in a split second the situation, yes the AI is a tool but will not help win games, more likely contribute to a loss, Rugby Players are not robots, all AI can do if offer a solution not the solution. AI will effect many sports, help train better golfers etc.
45 Go to commentsIt couldn’t have been Ryan Crotty. He wasn’t selected in either World Cup side - they chose Money Bill instead. And Money Bill only cared about himself, and that manager he had, not the team.
28 Go to commentsYawn 🥱 nobody would give a hoot about this new trophy. End of the day we just have to beat Ireland and NZ this year then they can finally shut up 🤐
19 Go to commentsTalking bout Ryan Crotty? Heard Crotty say in a interview once that SBW doesen't care about the team . He went on to say that whenever they lost a big game, SBW would be happy as if nothing happened, according to him someone who cares would look down.. Personally I think Crotty is in the wrong, not for feeling gutted but for expecting others 2 be like him… I have been a bad loser forever as it matters so much to me but good on you SBW for being able to see the bigger picture….
28 Go to commentsThis sounds like a WWE idea so Americans can also get excited about rugby, RUGBY NEEDS A INTERNATIONAL CALENDER .. The rugby Championship and Six Nations can be held at same time, top 3 of six nations and top 3 of Rugby championship (6 nations should include Georgia AND another qualifying country while Fiji, Japan and Samoa/Tonga qualifier should make out 6 Southern teams).. Scrap June internationals and year end tours. Have a Elite top six Cup and the Bottom 6 in a secondary comp….
19 Go to commentsThe rugby championship would be even stronger with Fiji in it… I know it doesen’t fit the long term plans of NZ or Aus but you are robbing a whole nation of being able to see their best players play for Fiji…. Every second player in NZ and AUS teams has Fijian surnames… shame on you!!! World rugby won’t step in either as France and England has now also joined in…. I guess where money is involved it will always be the poor countries missing out….
90 Go to commentsNo surprise there. How hard can it be to pick a ball off the ground and chuck it to a mate? 😂
4 Go to commentsSometimes people just like a moan mate!
9 Go to commentsexcellent idea ! rugby needs this 💪
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